Support Improvements

[fsyumi]

Preparation

• No one has asked for this feature before in other issues (even the closed ones)

Describe the feature

With multicore becoming more popular and common multicore servants such as KoyanD, TGW, Arcueid are already included, maybe adding other popular multicore servants to be included in default support images would be very helpful.

Examples include:

• Tezcatlipoca
• Louhi (relevant for NA as Christmas Lotto and Indra Lotto has good usage for her)
• Lord Logres

Additionally, some servants that are prominently featured/borrowed in Grand Duels are already default (such as Summer Kriemhild, Gensai, Scathach) but still missing some key servants for others class that would be nice to be included.

Examples include:

• Saber Medusa
• Count of Monte Cristo
• Scheherazade

[ArthurKun21]

We are actually going to move to support selection v2 which means you can directly create support images(servant/ce) from a database. Think of like Chaldea where you can see all images but here you can choose one and it will create the support images.

The current problem is that I need to figure it out how to make the battle configs go from using the current support selection to the new v2

[fsyumi]

Thanks for the update! Glad to know there's an incoming upgrade/overhaul for support selection.

Integrating from either Chaldea or Atlas is a really interesting approach since it can potentially remove the need to constantly update the default support selection v1 depending on use-cases. Users can easily get their needed servant or CE they need for a quest especially when newly released. since Chaldea or Atlas also usually updates their database quickly

I think a good example would be lotto where one would usually use the Support Image Maker to add the lotto CE (in addition to using ingame CE filters) and servants relevant for the nodes. With pulling from Chaldea or Atlas, it could just pull from the database rather than manually creating the support image (ex. annoying to do for some servants since some enable random servant ascension and some servants have costume included) especially since there are comps which does not use traditional servants.

I think if this would be addressed in v2, might be better to close this issue for now.

[ArthurKun21]

oh for the Event CEs there's actually a problem there. You see

the event UI is blocking. Technically cropping the support image CE should be good but I don't know if it is good good. Also going to be another toggle since I don't have reliable way to know if it was event CE or not

[fsyumi]

If I remember correctly, I used to set the similarity lower whenever there is event damage bonus for supports that I will be borrowing but setting it lower also makes reliability lower as well.

I wonder if there's like a database/collection of FGO event UI icons such as damage event bonus, damage bonus from bond, etc to help out for these cases. I guess it's mostly related to raids like Part 2 finale where there isn't an event CE, there's an additional icon in the CE area, and one wants to borrow bond point CEs.

For identifying events CE, first thing that comes to mind is referencing from known databases such as Atlas API (ex. using json key flag: svtEquipEvent for Event CE, normal for Permanent CE) but pulling API might have a hit in performance.

Thanks for all the effort put into FGA and excited for support v2 implementation when it rolls out 🚀

[ArthurKun21]

there's a lot of event UI icons on the Atlas, parsing them and using them correctly is what gonna be pain. That's not counting events that has like multiple bonus(like 3 event item drop rate increase, enemy rate increase) that keeps rotating hence the initial decision to just crop it.

[ArthurKun21]

If I remember correctly, I used to set the similarity lower whenever there is event damage bonus for supports that I will be borrowing but setting it lower also makes reliability lower as well.

wait, I'll support this usecase. I'll add a per-CE override of image matching