shelf and clipboard suddenly not retaining thru sessions/restarts.

[metropical]

I see the google group has been heavily bot invaded, but as I can find no other message base.... so

haven't changed anything, but, jic, I went back and checked prefs.
there is nothing in User/fritz/Library/App Supp/QS/shelves.

Should I try removing Users/Fritz/Lib/Cache/QS/Indexes/Shelf & Clipboard?

I did try deleting Us/Fz/Lib/Cache/com.blacktree ...

[pjrobertson]

I assume you've checked the that you've enabled the 'keep history when restarting' option?

[metropical]

yes.

[n8henrie]

Are you handy on the command line?

If so, can you run the below command and see if the timestamps change as you copy things to your clipboard / save to a shelf?

$ watch 'ls -l ~/"Library/Application Support/Quicksilver/Shelves"'

In my case, I enabled the option above, copied something to clipboard, and you can see the pastedboard item updated its timestamp right away:

$ ls -l Shelves/
total 5832
-rwxr-xr-x 1 n8henrie staff   32052 Dec 19 13:33 General.qsshelf
-rwxr-xr-x 1 n8henrie staff 5935269 Jan 30 11:31 QSPasteboardHistory.qsshelf

[n8henrie]

Hmm, actually watch might not be a macos-provided command.

If you get a command-not-found, use this instead:

$ while :; do clear; ls -l ~/"Library/Application Support/Quicksilver/Shelves"; sleep 0.1; done

[metropical]

thanks for the input Nate.

Last login: Fri Jan 30 08:52:00 on console
fritz@Fritzs-Mac-mini ~ % $ watch 'ls -l ~/"Library/Application Support/Quicksilver/Shelves"'
zsh: command not found: $
fritz@Fritzs-Mac-mini ~ % $ while :; do clear; ls -l ~/"Library/Application Support/Quicksilver/Shelves"; sleep 0.1; done
zsh: parse error near `do'
fritz@Fritzs-Mac-mini ~ %

[n8henrie]

Sorry, my command is in bash -- I don't use zsh.

If you just run bash first (no other arguments), you should get a bash shell and be able to paste in the while ... command.

[metropical]

k, switched to bash and I can see clipboard adding.
but when I quit and restart QS, both the clip and shelf are empty.

[n8henrie]

That's odd!

There seems to be a little conflicting info --

From your original post: "there is nothing in User/fritz/Library/App Supp/QS/shelves"
From your latest post: "switched to bash and I can see clipboard adding"

The latter implies there is something in .../Shelves. Did something change?

[metropical]

/Users/fritz/Library/Application Support/Quicksilver/Shelves. is still empty.
Whatever I drop on the shelf is there, but when I restart, nada.
When I copy to Clipboard, I see it. But also, with restart, clipboard is empty.

[n8henrie]

Sorry, I don't follow.

When you said "switched to bash and I can see clipboard adding" -- what did you mean? I interpreted that as "the file exists and was modified as expected when I copy something to my clipboard." Is that right?

When you "restart" -- can you be more specific? Restart your computer or just QS?

[metropical]

I ended up uninstalling and reinstalling QS and all, thus far is well. dunno why or how, but QS seemed to have become corrupted.
just ran - while :; do clear; ls -l ~/"Library/Application Support/Quicksilver/Shelves"; sleep 0.1; done
and got the attached.

[n8henrie]

thus far is well

Glad to hear it. I'll close for now, let me know if I should re-open.

[metropical]

thanks.